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	<description>The trials and tribulations of my life as a slave.</description>
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		<title>By: kaya</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/respect-my-authoritay#comment-10913</link>
		<dc:creator>kaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was me, not The Boss. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was me, not The Boss. <img src='http://underhishand.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Master of Kaya</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/respect-my-authoritay#comment-10910</link>
		<dc:creator>Master of Kaya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not by birth, but by worth.

I *really really* like that. It has a ring to it, don&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not by birth, but by worth.</p>
<p>I *really really* like that. It has a ring to it, don&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: w_professor</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/respect-my-authoritay#comment-10907</link>
		<dc:creator>w_professor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have been thinking on this &quot;natural order&quot; thingie piece of crap.  You can not find in nature a consistent example of it.  Only in some cheap badly written mock pron books does it exist,and yes I am talking about that Gor crap.  I do not believe in it.  In nature you will find example after example of a female based society, one such is elephants.  And I pity the poor fool who tells me sister she is less than he is.  One man tried, and then tried to rape her.  He did the next 10 years in prison in a wheelchair.  At 5-3, she is one mean woman, who has two black belts, one in judo and one in karate.  And she is flat meaner than me.  Men are superior?  Not unless they earn it.  Not by birth, but by their worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have been thinking on this &#8220;natural order&#8221; thingie piece of crap.  You can not find in nature a consistent example of it.  Only in some cheap badly written mock pron books does it exist,and yes I am talking about that Gor crap.  I do not believe in it.  In nature you will find example after example of a female based society, one such is elephants.  And I pity the poor fool who tells me sister she is less than he is.  One man tried, and then tried to rape her.  He did the next 10 years in prison in a wheelchair.  At 5-3, she is one mean woman, who has two black belts, one in judo and one in karate.  And she is flat meaner than me.  Men are superior?  Not unless they earn it.  Not by birth, but by their worth.</p>
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		<title>By: lee holloway</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/respect-my-authoritay#comment-10849</link>
		<dc:creator>lee holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 16:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I don&#039;t see the problem with teachers or parents encouraging girls to think in terms of having a career (not to mention encouraging their intellectual interests).  It&#039;s great to raise kids and take care of your family.  If you can manage it economically, and it&#039;s your thing, why not do it full time?  But arrangements can change.  Divorces happen. Husbands can die, or lose their jobs.  In that case, shouldn&#039;t women make sure that they have options for themselves?  And having options begins with being encouraged at a young to think about careers.  It doesn&#039;t preclude motherhood at all.  

And in fact, the need for women having options was sort of the topic of this original post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I don&#8217;t see the problem with teachers or parents encouraging girls to think in terms of having a career (not to mention encouraging their intellectual interests).  It&#8217;s great to raise kids and take care of your family.  If you can manage it economically, and it&#8217;s your thing, why not do it full time?  But arrangements can change.  Divorces happen. Husbands can die, or lose their jobs.  In that case, shouldn&#8217;t women make sure that they have options for themselves?  And having options begins with being encouraged at a young to think about careers.  It doesn&#8217;t preclude motherhood at all.  </p>
<p>And in fact, the need for women having options was sort of the topic of this original post.</p>
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		<title>By: Devlyn</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/respect-my-authoritay#comment-10848</link>
		<dc:creator>Devlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 15:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post! This is exactly why I didn&#039;t fit well into the Gorean community on the long term. I just never bought the whole &quot;natural order&quot; argument. I did like all the strictness and protocols and such. I was there specifically to learn about those things, but always the natural order stuff came up. 

I think it&#039;s HOT in fantasy. I often fantasize about being raised from birth to be a slave. Being isolated, manipulated, molded, shaped into what &quot;they&quot; wanted me to be. But that&#039;s my fantasy, not someone else&#039;s. Obviously, it still happens whether I like it or not. People do all sorts of stupid things with their kids. However, society isn&#039;t set up to support their &quot;ideal&quot;. So unless they are living on some compound where they can control everything about the society their children are growing up in, it&#039;s unlikely to be effective in the long run. 

It saddens me to think that a parent would choose to stunt their child in that way. And it is a deliberate stunting. I read not long ago about a guy who was given an orbital lobotomy when he was a child to change his personality. Would these people support lobotomizing their girls also if it killed their curiosity and will? I think some of them would, and that&#039;s pretty sad.

As far as being a homemaker and full time parent, I see either/both as viable and important jobs for any gender. Men can and should have just as much input in the raising of their children as women. Those who opt out of that are missing out on something very important, but that&#039;s their choice too. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post! This is exactly why I didn&#8217;t fit well into the Gorean community on the long term. I just never bought the whole &#8220;natural order&#8221; argument. I did like all the strictness and protocols and such. I was there specifically to learn about those things, but always the natural order stuff came up. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s HOT in fantasy. I often fantasize about being raised from birth to be a slave. Being isolated, manipulated, molded, shaped into what &#8220;they&#8221; wanted me to be. But that&#8217;s my fantasy, not someone else&#8217;s. Obviously, it still happens whether I like it or not. People do all sorts of stupid things with their kids. However, society isn&#8217;t set up to support their &#8220;ideal&#8221;. So unless they are living on some compound where they can control everything about the society their children are growing up in, it&#8217;s unlikely to be effective in the long run. </p>
<p>It saddens me to think that a parent would choose to stunt their child in that way. And it is a deliberate stunting. I read not long ago about a guy who was given an orbital lobotomy when he was a child to change his personality. Would these people support lobotomizing their girls also if it killed their curiosity and will? I think some of them would, and that&#8217;s pretty sad.</p>
<p>As far as being a homemaker and full time parent, I see either/both as viable and important jobs for any gender. Men can and should have just as much input in the raising of their children as women. Those who opt out of that are missing out on something very important, but that&#8217;s their choice too. <img src='http://underhishand.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dweaver999</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/respect-my-authoritay#comment-10847</link>
		<dc:creator>dweaver999</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lee,

That may well be the case.  I honestly try to avoid the subject altogether these days.  Most of my exposure has been on campus, where things can get a little radical.  It&#039;s funny, but I&#039;ve never heard a mother/housewife discourage their kids from seeking a career if they wanted, but I hve heard career women discourage their daughters from being housewives (honey, don&#039;t limit yourself like that kind of comments).  And I have personally witnessed a teacher telling her students that being a mother was NOT an acceptable subject for &quot;draw a picture of what you want to do when you grow up&quot; assignment.  I was in her class on an observation.  When I asked about it after school was out, she said, &quot;There&#039;s no challenge, after all, anyone can be a mother and a housewife.  It&#039;s not like you have to be bright.  I want my kids to expand their horizens.&quot;

As for the women&#039;s lib thing, no, not regional, just me.  I don&#039;t think my slang has changed much in the last 30 years.  I still use &quot;cool,&quot; &quot;neat,&quot; and &quot;groovy&quot; in real life conversation.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee,</p>
<p>That may well be the case.  I honestly try to avoid the subject altogether these days.  Most of my exposure has been on campus, where things can get a little radical.  It&#8217;s funny, but I&#8217;ve never heard a mother/housewife discourage their kids from seeking a career if they wanted, but I hve heard career women discourage their daughters from being housewives (honey, don&#8217;t limit yourself like that kind of comments).  And I have personally witnessed a teacher telling her students that being a mother was NOT an acceptable subject for &#8220;draw a picture of what you want to do when you grow up&#8221; assignment.  I was in her class on an observation.  When I asked about it after school was out, she said, &#8220;There&#8217;s no challenge, after all, anyone can be a mother and a housewife.  It&#8217;s not like you have to be bright.  I want my kids to expand their horizens.&#8221;</p>
<p>As for the women&#8217;s lib thing, no, not regional, just me.  I don&#8217;t think my slang has changed much in the last 30 years.  I still use &#8220;cool,&#8221; &#8220;neat,&#8221; and &#8220;groovy&#8221; in real life conversation.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: just_w</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/respect-my-authoritay#comment-10846</link>
		<dc:creator>just_w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good grief....i saw your post and my heart stopped a beat... i thought my son found me...lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good grief&#8230;.i saw your post and my heart stopped a beat&#8230; i thought my son found me&#8230;lol</p>
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		<title>By: w_professor</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/respect-my-authoritay#comment-10845</link>
		<dc:creator>w_professor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mom????  You read blogs???  LOL, seriously you sound like my Mom, who taught me to open doors for women, say please, thank you and may I, wash, dry and iron my clothes, clean the entire house top to bottom, do a budget, plan meals for the week, and tons of other stuff that &quot;women&quot; were made to do when she grew up, not men.  I still do all of that stuff, and have never felt that women were, by not having a penis, made by God to be my house slave.  To this day, I know that if I was to dis-respect a working women, my Mom would probably slap my head off.  Mean little old Southern lady, but I love her greatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mom????  You read blogs???  LOL, seriously you sound like my Mom, who taught me to open doors for women, say please, thank you and may I, wash, dry and iron my clothes, clean the entire house top to bottom, do a budget, plan meals for the week, and tons of other stuff that &#8220;women&#8221; were made to do when she grew up, not men.  I still do all of that stuff, and have never felt that women were, by not having a penis, made by God to be my house slave.  To this day, I know that if I was to dis-respect a working women, my Mom would probably slap my head off.  Mean little old Southern lady, but I love her greatly.</p>
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		<title>By: just_w</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/respect-my-authoritay#comment-10844</link>
		<dc:creator>just_w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to stay respectful on that thread but it was made clear that there was to be no room for opposing views.  I don&#039;t have much time for nor can I suffer a stranger on the internet telling me that I am in conflict with my beliefs or worse...playacting at them because they don&#039;t perfectly match his.

I am old enough to remember watching &quot;The Little Rascals&quot; re runs.  Spankie &amp; Alfalfa&#039;s   HeMan Woman Haters Club  was threatened by Alfalfa&#039;s interest with the smart and savvy Darla.  That was 70 years ago. 

And... Though I firmly believe all persons should know how to cook and take care of their own home... I don&#039;t believe that in this day and age, we need to be using precious resources in the schools to be teaching it.   Is there not plenty of opportunities for on the job training while growing up. I taught my son how to take care of himself...it&#039;s a life skill.  Whether he chooses to use those skills or find someone to do them for him, is &quot;his choice&quot;  

God damn...it&#039;s a nudgy subject isn&#039;t it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to stay respectful on that thread but it was made clear that there was to be no room for opposing views.  I don&#8217;t have much time for nor can I suffer a stranger on the internet telling me that I am in conflict with my beliefs or worse&#8230;playacting at them because they don&#8217;t perfectly match his.</p>
<p>I am old enough to remember watching &#8220;The Little Rascals&#8221; re runs.  Spankie &amp; Alfalfa&#8217;s   HeMan Woman Haters Club  was threatened by Alfalfa&#8217;s interest with the smart and savvy Darla.  That was 70 years ago. </p>
<p>And&#8230; Though I firmly believe all persons should know how to cook and take care of their own home&#8230; I don&#8217;t believe that in this day and age, we need to be using precious resources in the schools to be teaching it.   Is there not plenty of opportunities for on the job training while growing up. I taught my son how to take care of himself&#8230;it&#8217;s a life skill.  Whether he chooses to use those skills or find someone to do them for him, is &#8220;his choice&#8221;  </p>
<p>God damn&#8230;it&#8217;s a nudgy subject isn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		<title>By: lee holloway</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/respect-my-authoritay#comment-10843</link>
		<dc:creator>lee holloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>omg, that&#039;s funny!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg, that&#8217;s funny!</p>
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