I come here about every … 10 minutes, hoping for a new post.

Maybe I should get myself a life?

*grins* ;)

Hey by the way, a bunny came to me… on the “No rights” thing. In it’s fullest, doesn’t that means that the slave doesn’t have the right to feel what her Owner doesn’t want her to feel, doesn’t have the right to respect, honesty, to be heard…

How far do people take the “no right”s thing?

If a Dom is persistently letting down their discipline, not following through with established rules, etc. i would have to agree that evaluation of their role is necessary. As a newly starting submissive i cannot think of anything more confusing and traumatic than having someone in a Dom position that is incapable of control. i know that as a new sub i have pushed the limits with my Master both on purpose and not realizing numerous times just to ensure that he would push back. To me i see it very much like a parent / child relationship in the fact that children often push parent’s buttons purposefully to ensure that guidelines set forth are being enforced which allows the child to feel safe and sound.

An example in my relationship with Master recently would be the rules He created and my not following them well. He took the “bull by the horns” so to say and sat me down. He began the discussion that He felt i was not able to follow all the rules he had created adequately. He found an alternate solution and realized that these were far too many rules for me to grasp at once. He made the decision that He would select 1 or 2 per week with my input to place focus on each day. If my Master cannot see clearly when something is not working for me and help to modify it, then i would dare say we are not very compatible as either Dom/sub OR Husband/wife.

Looking at the other aspect in regards to what is stated above is the role of the sub and their responsibility in the process; it was clearly my duty as a sub to realize that my Master wants to ensure that i am more compliant with his rules. This is obviously important to Him as Master and i must ensure that i listen clearly to his suggestions and recommendations, clarify anything i do not understand, and most importantly it is now my burden to carry out the request made by my Master. If i were to consistently blow off what my Master desires and not strive toward pleasing him than i am not the right person to be sub in any relationship.

If a Dom is not capable of seeing when limits are being pushed or guidelines not followed then i would have to gather that they are not capable of being a true Dom. Or rephrased; a Dom that cannot successfully dominate over their sub, establish strict guidelines, and enforce them even if it means re-evaluating and altering based on the subs capabilities is simply an impostor to the Dom categorization. Maybe that is a bit harsh but if it is a consistent waffling then doesn’t it completely go against what a Dominate partner is altogether?

i can surely appreciate and understand fully the fact that we do not want to look at ourselves with faulting. It is my duty to submit and see when i am not doing so and correct it. But as kaya stated, “But maybe I do think it should be HIM saying “Look. You made a mistake. What are YOU going to do about it, and what am I going to do to make sure you don’t make this same mistake tomorrow?” ” …i agree that this is where the burden comes in for the Dom.

As a sub i need to feel i am kept in that submissive, structured environment by knowing my Master is on top of all situations and able to point out what i need to work on to become a better submissive to him. For me it is as simple as knowing no one is perfect and if my Master does not give me things to work on then perhaps he is wearing rose colored glasses and not putting all He can into this relationship. It is my safeguard and sanity to know Master is pushing back every time i try to push and see that he cares enough to be on top of things. That is what prevents a self destructive pattern; there is safety and affirmation in knowing i am being taught by my Master to be what He truly wants his submissive to be.

~viemoira

Here’s an idea. If it offends your wittwe eyes so much, click the x and stop coming back.

We discussed this over at my place. (Of course, you know that :P) But just so I don’t appear “holier than thou” (I’m still not sure why people think that of me…):

I agree that a master’s actions directly affect his slave’s actions. I just also feel that the slave has a responsibility to herself and her owner to at least make a strong attempt not to let her submission slip because he’s letting his domination slip for whatever reason.

And what’s with all these people who read your blog just so they can tell you how much they hate everything you stand for? You get so many of them!

At least this one didn’t do the anonymous thing. Still, you got to wonder why Killer Queen is reading this blog. I just don’t get it, I guess.

Dave

I thought my kink was only true in dungeon tales
Meant for someone else but not for me.
My kink was out to get me
That’s the way it seemed.
Disappointment haunted all my dreams.

Then I spanked her ass, now I’m a redeemer
Not a trace of doubt in my mind.
I’m a Dom, I’m a redeemer!
I couldn’t untie her if I tried.

I thought her submission was more or less a given thing,
Seems the more I gave the more she got.
What’s the use in tyin’?
All you get is knots.
When I needed redemption, she got pain.

Then I spanked her ass, now I’m a redeemer
Not a trace of doubt in my mind.
I’m a Dom, I’m a redeemer!
I couldn’t untie her if I tried.