i think its part laziness, part icantbefuckedness and part lack of experience..o also think its more of a vanilla relationship than one of D/s.

I don’t know your situation, but the way that I envision ‘service slave’ is someone who maintains a separate household and goes to his/her Master’s house to clean, cook, etc., but does not live there and reap the benefits of the clean house, good meals, and no floating fish. How is that different than housework (whether you work outside the home or not) is my question I guess?

The sense of accomplishment and joy – is that not Quid Pro Quo?

In a Master/slave relationship? The burden lies with the slave. A master is free to do pretty much whatever the hell he wants. Including waffle. Before, during and after training. Granted it’s probably better to be consistent and not always give in at least in the beginning while building the foundation of the slave’s training, he really doesn’t have to. It’s the master’s responsibility to train the slave in the way most pleasing to him. It is her responsibility to remain in her place.

That also has a real downside, in that attempting to communicate one’s needs as a submissive is all to easy to read, from the inexperienced dominant’s perspective, as “is that topping from the bottom?? I was warned about that!” and then, when they get it entirely wrong, hurts their confidence-dominance even more.

takes finesse.

I am not sure if I am thinking of the same thread on TSR that may have triggered this post or the concepts behind it but if I am the Domme who became a slave was 21 or something.

*puts on her Terminator sunglasses* I’ll be back!!

I so totally disagree that I had to really think about it to respond…I actually wanted to respond directly to you, but didn’t see a way to do that.

As a service submissive, I fill the roles of maid, housekeeper, office assistant, nurse, body servant, and just a general sort of gofer. I take care of mundane details so that Beloved doesn’t have to think about them. Most of the time, there isn’t any thanks or direct recognition. I don’t get thanked for remembering to take out the trash or to pay the bills on time. He generally isn’t even aware of it. He is above those concerns.

The mindset is in doing an excellent job, to be available when needed for any task, from cooking gourmet meals to cleaning the fish tank and anything in between so to speak. I sort of liken it to being the devoted servant…always at the ready… always prepared…totally dedicated to the job regardless of what it is. What appeals to me is the sense of accomplishment and goodness in serving. It gives me joy and renews my willingness to continue when I’m tired and flagging. There is no punishment or discipline…just service.

Yes, I also am Beloved’s pet and sex slave, when he desires such of me. As much as we would both be amused by my role of the odalisque, financially, it’s impossible. So, during the day, I offer my submission through service.