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		<title>By: Really</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/if-you-wannabe-submissive-act-like-it#comment-63710</link>
		<dc:creator>Really</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 19:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked this post up until the point people started talking about how &#039;jakeskajira&#039; is a good member of the community. She is sooo rude. I saw her online before the days of Fetlife and she is the most non-submissive self-centered person. She and her &quot;dominant&quot; got ousted from another site after he proclaimed himself to be a sociopath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked this post up until the point people started talking about how &#8216;jakeskajira&#8217; is a good member of the community. She is sooo rude. I saw her online before the days of Fetlife and she is the most non-submissive self-centered person. She and her &#8220;dominant&#8221; got ousted from another site after he proclaimed himself to be a sociopath.</p>
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		<title>By: ravenna_smiles</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/if-you-wannabe-submissive-act-like-it#comment-63140</link>
		<dc:creator>ravenna_smiles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 17:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am a subm isive of 12 years what i have learned is yes there are a great many posers and fakes the thing is yes our lifestyle is opening to the public more information is out there now and as such there are influxes of people seking to learn more or just generlly take advantage i was taught a good dom instead of first ordering you uponmeetin g will discuss the possibility of a d/s relationship as that is how a dom and sub start to build trust and respect for that is what dom sub is based upon love trust respect 
and i agree with what you are saying although i find it a little short sighted yes weomen do use it as fodder to giggle over but those are posers as well but what i can see is that it started not as a way to down people we find to be false but as a way to let other sub sisters in on whats going on to help them make better choices as we all want to enrich and protect each other yes some tae it too far but these are what i call fake and or weekend warriors you all know they type the subs who sub  just for the party but they arent submitting really but then again i was tught no matter the level of submission or type its is to be respected 
for no two submisives needs are the exact same nor two dom&#039;s 
thing is yes not everything they do is correct but they will learn one way or the other and by bitching about it all you do is add to their infamy when years go by and they are alone still they will get it finally if you hold yourself to your values of what submission really is you are not subjec t to fall into  that category at all for what is submitting to you  my not be submision to her or him 
point is this everyone is diffrent and in this day and age of internet we are all on display and the trick is to always show your best and let the foolish fall to the wayside     raven</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am a subm isive of 12 years what i have learned is yes there are a great many posers and fakes the thing is yes our lifestyle is opening to the public more information is out there now and as such there are influxes of people seking to learn more or just generlly take advantage i was taught a good dom instead of first ordering you uponmeetin g will discuss the possibility of a d/s relationship as that is how a dom and sub start to build trust and respect for that is what dom sub is based upon love trust respect<br />
and i agree with what you are saying although i find it a little short sighted yes weomen do use it as fodder to giggle over but those are posers as well but what i can see is that it started not as a way to down people we find to be false but as a way to let other sub sisters in on whats going on to help them make better choices as we all want to enrich and protect each other yes some tae it too far but these are what i call fake and or weekend warriors you all know they type the subs who sub  just for the party but they arent submitting really but then again i was tught no matter the level of submission or type its is to be respected<br />
for no two submisives needs are the exact same nor two dom&#8217;s<br />
thing is yes not everything they do is correct but they will learn one way or the other and by bitching about it all you do is add to their infamy when years go by and they are alone still they will get it finally if you hold yourself to your values of what submission really is you are not subjec t to fall into  that category at all for what is submitting to you  my not be submision to her or him<br />
point is this everyone is diffrent and in this day and age of internet we are all on display and the trick is to always show your best and let the foolish fall to the wayside     raven</p>
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		<title>By: erring ways</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/if-you-wannabe-submissive-act-like-it#comment-6205</link>
		<dc:creator>erring ways</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No worries :)

In retrospect it seems like a bit of a rant - but one I stand by.  

I&#039;ve been lucky to meet enough Doms who are men of intelligence, integrity, and grace not to be disgusted by those who give the entire scene a bad name.

It just drives me bonkers when people in the life style manage to represent a sub as worthless  :)  The right sub is just as amazing a gift for the Dom as the right Dom is for a sub.   Encouraging &quot;wannabes&quot; merely makes it harder to find that precious match.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No worries :)</p>
<p>In retrospect it seems like a bit of a rant &#8211; but one I stand by.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been lucky to meet enough Doms who are men of intelligence, integrity, and grace not to be disgusted by those who give the entire scene a bad name.</p>
<p>It just drives me bonkers when people in the life style manage to represent a sub as worthless  :)  The right sub is just as amazing a gift for the Dom as the right Dom is for a sub.   Encouraging &#8220;wannabes&#8221; merely makes it harder to find that precious match.</p>
<p>;)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/if-you-wannabe-submissive-act-like-it#comment-6166</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, I just replied, and THEN read this reply.  Sorry to repeat so much of what you just said...I honestly didn&#039;t read this before replying LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, I just replied, and THEN read this reply.  Sorry to repeat so much of what you just said&#8230;I honestly didn&#8217;t read this before replying LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/if-you-wannabe-submissive-act-like-it#comment-6165</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I think if I were a dom in search of a submissive, I would probably give a simple order right off the bat too, purely for the purpose of weeding out the man-bashing wannabe posing as a submissive.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I personally disagree with this.  I am submissive, but not EVERYONE&#039;S.  There&#039;s a big difference.  I find it entirely DISrespectful for a Dom to bark an order to test someone that is not his.  To me...that would be a way to weed out the wannabe dom.  Why is it that the submissive is the only one that has to prove something?

my two cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I think if I were a dom in search of a submissive, I would probably give a simple order right off the bat too, purely for the purpose of weeding out the man-bashing wannabe posing as a submissive.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I personally disagree with this.  I am submissive, but not EVERYONE&#8217;S.  There&#8217;s a big difference.  I find it entirely DISrespectful for a Dom to bark an order to test someone that is not his.  To me&#8230;that would be a way to weed out the wannabe dom.  Why is it that the submissive is the only one that has to prove something?</p>
<p>my two cents</p>
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		<title>By: erring ways</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/if-you-wannabe-submissive-act-like-it#comment-6133</link>
		<dc:creator>erring ways</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

I read your blog fairly regularly.
This entry has been stewing in my brain for a while.

My 2 cents worth is this:

Just because a person is a sub does not magically protect them from the risks associated with bad judgement.  Consequently, you should apply the same criteria to finding a dom as you would for any other kind of relationship.   

When I label someone as a &quot;wannabe dom&quot;, all it means is that that person doesn&#039;t meet my basic criteria for a Dom.   Why would I want to sub for someone I don&#039;t respect, like, or want to spend time with?   If someone issues a command in my direction (such as the hackneyed, &quot;kneel bitch&quot;), on the assumption that I&#039;m a sub and will respond to that, then they are acting as if they &quot;wannabe&quot; *my* Dom.   It&#039;s not man bashing to recognize (and declare) that a particular male is an unsuitable candidate for me - especially if I&#039;m clear about why I&#039;ve made that determination.   Nor is it &quot;un-submissive&quot; to have expectations of behavior.

I&#039;m in a happy Dom/sub relationship - and I don&#039;t regret having determined that he was a sane and intelligent long before I got naked and tied up in his bed!

I don&#039;t think that single femsubs object to dominant behavior - but maybe they differentiate between the kind of dom they are seeking and random strangers that confuse submission with an open invitation to abuse from rude jackasses.  Guys who assume subs are free hookers just waiting for them to get their rocks off are not necessarily Dom material.  Just because we are subs doesn&#039;t mean that we want to suck off every hygenically-deficient and intellectually-stunted bully that can find a Ds website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>I read your blog fairly regularly.<br />
This entry has been stewing in my brain for a while.</p>
<p>My 2 cents worth is this:</p>
<p>Just because a person is a sub does not magically protect them from the risks associated with bad judgement.  Consequently, you should apply the same criteria to finding a dom as you would for any other kind of relationship.   </p>
<p>When I label someone as a &#8220;wannabe dom&#8221;, all it means is that that person doesn&#8217;t meet my basic criteria for a Dom.   Why would I want to sub for someone I don&#8217;t respect, like, or want to spend time with?   If someone issues a command in my direction (such as the hackneyed, &#8220;kneel bitch&#8221;), on the assumption that I&#8217;m a sub and will respond to that, then they are acting as if they &#8220;wannabe&#8221; *my* Dom.   It&#8217;s not man bashing to recognize (and declare) that a particular male is an unsuitable candidate for me &#8211; especially if I&#8217;m clear about why I&#8217;ve made that determination.   Nor is it &#8220;un-submissive&#8221; to have expectations of behavior.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in a happy Dom/sub relationship &#8211; and I don&#8217;t regret having determined that he was a sane and intelligent long before I got naked and tied up in his bed!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that single femsubs object to dominant behavior &#8211; but maybe they differentiate between the kind of dom they are seeking and random strangers that confuse submission with an open invitation to abuse from rude jackasses.  Guys who assume subs are free hookers just waiting for them to get their rocks off are not necessarily Dom material.  Just because we are subs doesn&#8217;t mean that we want to suck off every hygenically-deficient and intellectually-stunted bully that can find a Ds website.</p>
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		<title>By: Subonfire</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/if-you-wannabe-submissive-act-like-it#comment-6100</link>
		<dc:creator>Subonfire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. I would never call anyone sir in ordinary conversation, and for a dominant, I would not call him Sir unless I was scening with him, or he&#039;s taken me as his submissive. 

Until that time, a dominant is treated respectfully by me, in the same way as I treat subs respectfully.. or anyone that I meet. 

I do not defer to someone just because they&#039;re a dominant, but neither am I disrespectful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I would never call anyone sir in ordinary conversation, and for a dominant, I would not call him Sir unless I was scening with him, or he&#8217;s taken me as his submissive. </p>
<p>Until that time, a dominant is treated respectfully by me, in the same way as I treat subs respectfully.. or anyone that I meet. </p>
<p>I do not defer to someone just because they&#8217;re a dominant, but neither am I disrespectful.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/if-you-wannabe-submissive-act-like-it#comment-6095</link>
		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 01:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I missed a lot of drama on this post while I was away!

I totally get what you&#039;re saying on this, though. If you&#039;re presenting yourself as X, then you should really be demonstrating some characteristics of X or everybody is going to think you&#039;re faking. After all, we expect dominants to have aspects of dominance in their conversation and such--and it&#039;s a wierd double standard that submissives doing the same is looked down on.

Obviously, it can be taken too far--I&#039;d have the same disdain for someone who is a doormat as I would for someone who is overbearing to the point of rudeness.

But when you&#039;re feeling out a relationship, I don&#039;t think it would hurt at all to see how the other person responds when you act the way you&#039;d be acting in a formalized relationship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I missed a lot of drama on this post while I was away!</p>
<p>I totally get what you&#8217;re saying on this, though. If you&#8217;re presenting yourself as X, then you should really be demonstrating some characteristics of X or everybody is going to think you&#8217;re faking. After all, we expect dominants to have aspects of dominance in their conversation and such&#8211;and it&#8217;s a wierd double standard that submissives doing the same is looked down on.</p>
<p>Obviously, it can be taken too far&#8211;I&#8217;d have the same disdain for someone who is a doormat as I would for someone who is overbearing to the point of rudeness.</p>
<p>But when you&#8217;re feeling out a relationship, I don&#8217;t think it would hurt at all to see how the other person responds when you act the way you&#8217;d be acting in a formalized relationship.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackryng</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/if-you-wannabe-submissive-act-like-it#comment-6092</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackryng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that every single example of a moron submissive* includes giving a blow job as an example?



*Not that submissives are morons, I&#039;m talking of a person who primarily is a moron, also claims to be submissive.  Some of my best friends are submissives, and are NOT morons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that every single example of a moron submissive* includes giving a blow job as an example?</p>
<p>*Not that submissives are morons, I&#8217;m talking of a person who primarily is a moron, also claims to be submissive.  Some of my best friends are submissives, and are NOT morons.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackryng</title>
		<link>http://underhishand.com/if-you-wannabe-submissive-act-like-it#comment-6091</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackryng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks -just checked out this group, its great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks -just checked out this group, its great.</p>
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