It may not have been sexual in this content…but it was definitely psychological and people that don’t understand it will have issues with it. I think that’s what happened in this case.

Let’s use this little example:

I’m into bondage and role playing such as the pet play. I am NOT inso severe body scarification/bloodplay, SCAT, breathing restrictions etc.. I have nothing against other people doing it…but I don’t enjoy watching it or being exposed to it for my own personal reasons. It’s pretty traumatic for me…not because I am not open minded hell I’ve already made it clear I’m into kink, but for other reasons. If I wasn’t open minded I wouldn’t be ok with other people doing it.

That being said, as much as I would love to be allowed to walk my pet on a leash in public I can’t live a double standard and be a hypocrite. Someone else might find me walking my pet just as traumatic and unnaceptable publicly as I am with people mutilating their bodies for everyone else to see. They may not be opposed to it…but they may not want to see it either because it’s not their cup of tea.

If you allow one kink in public…you have to pretty much allow all kinks in public. And that’s when you start imposing things on people.

I don’t consider it repression in any way. I am still open minded enough of a person to accept that other people are into SCAT and bloodplay, that some will restrain other people’s breathing to the point of near damage. It’s their choices…I respect that, but I want no part in it and I don’t want to witness it. They are still allowed to do these things in the sanctuary of their own homes, parties etc. And by doing so, I don’t have to worry about taking the bus and possibly have an anxiety attack for a public display of kink bringing back a lot of nasty issues and memories with me.

We have to consider there’s certain things in life we just can’t have. The pedophile might have the same mentality as well and feel the same type of entitlement “it’s my personnal preferences, it’s my kink therefore people should be ok with it. If they’re allowed their kinks why can’t I?” But Pedophilia is obviously NOT ok! To someone else kink might feel just as perverse as pedophilia for them. Irrational yes…but it’s reality. Someone might get just as offended for seeing me walk another person as a pet. Maybe they were tied to a radiator and beaten and treated as a dog as a child…you never know. It’s not always the case of people not being open and accepting enough and you can’t always tell. You have to respect that.

So the safe alternative for all of this is to keep your kink at home out of respect for others that are not into it for whatever reason, EDUCATE others so they understand why you’re into it and maybe in the long run people will be able to see past their own preferences and stigmas and to be accepting of it but NEVER impose your preferences or anything on others.

Yes we have a right to our own preferences but so does someone else. And when those preferences conflict you can’t force another’s point of view to justify it. You just have to accept the differences and come to a compromise or mutual agreement. Allright you want to sit on cactus…Allright I don’t want to see it. Ok then you sit on your cactus at home…you still get to do it…I don’t get to see it….everyone’s happy.

And that’s where my point of view sits.

The End! :p

I agree with you though. PDK is a fine line. I am all for people being open minded and believing in whatever they may. But just as I wouldn’t want a Burquha imposed on me…I wouldn’t want that imposed on me either.

I’m an advocate of do what you want with yourself, to yourself and to “CONSENTING OTHERS” but don’t have any consequences of that spill or be imposed onto any other persons life that may not want any part of it. I think it’s called respect for others choices, preferences and boundaries/limits.

If someone wants to sit naked on a cactus for the hell of it…fine by me, but don’t force me to watch. I don’t find pleasure in that.

I do believe that things like that should be left for the home, fetish parties, dungeons and photoshoots. Not in public! There’s more sublte ways to play kink in public without offending the general public.

I honestly think these kids were going for the shock value. Tshey wanted to make a statement and they obviously did. But there’s a line between asserting your opinions/preferences, voicing your concerns and trying to open people’s mind and feeling entitled to impose such opinions/preferences on others…I find that bloody disrespectful and it will not help open anyone’s minds to anything. If anything…it will re-inforce the stereotype and negative notion that we’re ingrate degenerates with no respect for human beings.

Yes it’s sad that we live in a narrow minded world that can’t be accepting of those things. But it’s reality and we cannot force the change. As much as I can’t be forced into wearing a Burquha, I cannot force others to be ok with me being treated as a dog in public.

This was my exact first reaction too!! ;-)

I have to wonder if those of us with children are the ones who are more conservative with our styles. It’s just a thought, but maybe those who don’t have kids and who are more accustomed to being fully open with things at home have a harder time reigning it in when out in public. They may see public decency as an imposition, where for people with kids, it’s the norm for us at home and out in public. I know that we have the same gestures and secret looks in the living room over the kids’ heads as we do in Wal-mart.

*shrug* Just a thought.

That is precisely what I think too. The public should not be a forced participant. I dont think that people (some people) consider viewing, or sitting next to them on the bus, is forced participation though.

However, coming from a (corrupted) vanilla such as yourself, if YOU say that watching it feels like participating, how can anyone argue with that? They’d be telling you that you don’t feel what you feel. That’s preposterous.

Slave to fashion. I’m going to remember that one. ;)

To the extent that my freedom and someone else’s collides there needs to be a compromise.

I agree completely. But it seems to me that it’s leaning more and more away from public decency. Not just in fetish wear, but just standards of dress and behavior period.

You might want to pay better attention.